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Reader Question: Selling Goods Online Overseas – Do I Need To Pay Tax In Malaysia?

Monday, April 5th, 2010

This is a question I received a while ago from one of my readers, Ashley, she asks:

I would like to sell handmade stuff on an online marketplace like Ebay.com and use Paypal to accept payments. If someone from the U.S. buys my product, do I need to pay any taxes (e.g. income, sales, etc.) to the Malaysian government? Would I be considered as a business?

The ‘official’ stand of the Malaysian tax department is that any and all income made by a Malaysian, within Malaysia (as in the money ends up in Malaysia) is by law, taxable.

If you’re not hitting the tax bracket of around RM2000 a month, I don’t think you have to pay tax anyway.

Get Some Tax Advice

However, if you are making more than RM2000/ month from online sales, I would suggest you go see a tax consultant or anybody who does tax for small businesses.

Tell that person roughly how much you make selling goods online and find out from them what your tax deductibles could be.

Will you owe money to the government, or would it be possible to offset your tax by claiming deductibles?

I can’t answer these questions for you, only a qualified tax expert can, so go find one, or ask a friend who owns a business who does their tax for them and make a meeting to go see them.

What Rich Dad Poor Dad Says About Tax

From my understanding of the ‘Rich Dad Poor Dad’ series of books, Robert Kiyosaki is basically telling people, the number 1 reason you should start a business is to save on tax.

Now tax may not be the biggest issue in Malaysia, as our tax brackets don’t go to crazy percentages such as 45% or 48% in foreign countries like USA, UK or Australia, but you can still take some learnings from businesses that operate in those countries.

If you’re holding down a full time job you have to realize that there’s almost no way to run away from tax. In Malaysia especially, there are only a certain set of deductibles you can claim in a year, these would include, books, computers, EPF, insurance etc.

If your salary is medium to high, then there’s no real way to run away from tax, the deductibles will never be enough for you to NOT pay for tax.

However, if you own your own business, it’s a different story entirely.

Everyone has heard that ‘meals’ or ‘cars’ or ‘houses’ are tax deductibles for business men or women and that’s why you see business men with huge wallets full of receipts.

A business person who makes $10,000/ month and an employee who makes $10,000/ month pay a very large difference in taxes at the end of the year, with the employee always losing out.

Tax Is Good

Tax, if used by the government like it should be used for, such as to build roads, schools and hospitals, is a great thing.

I can’t really comment what happens to our tax in Malaysia, but for a business person, the more taxable income you have, well, the more income you have – and that’s not a bad thing right?

Find out what your tax deductibles are and you may not actually owe the government anything, which at even a tax rate of 28%, means you could be making that much more a year in income.

A $10,000/ month employee will essentially only be bringing home $7,200/ month based on the tax figure above.

A $10,000/ month business man/ woman could be taking almost all that amount home.

I hope that answers your question Ashley, as well as anyone else out there who may have had this on their mind.

The bottom line – you have to pay tax for online income. But I think you should register a business and declare it as business income, then find tax deductibles to try and keep as much of that income to yourself as possible.

Keep the questions coming!

- William

Tax For Internet Businesses Continued

Tuesday, September 2nd, 2008

This is the follow up from my previous post regarding if bloggers need to pay taxes.

Below is the email that I sent to the Inland Revenue Board (IRB) of Malaysia regarding tax for internet businesses, such as blogs and websites which generate money from foreign companies, such as Google Adsense or its equivalent.

Hi,>>I am about to start an Internet business using blogs. I am trying to>make money from Google's advertising services, Adsense. But if they pay>me, it'll be in US dollars and the cheque will be sent to me in the>mail. Will I need to declare this as earned income? Or are there other>rules and regulations for Internet businesses?>>Thanks,>>-William
Here is their reply.
Dear William, Your e-mail dated 28/08/2008 refers. There are no specific income tax rules for internet businesses. The income that you earn has to be converted to Ringgit Malaysia and declared in the Return Form for that year.The conversion rate is available in the Guide Book which can be accessed on our website www.hasil.gov.my by clicking forms > B/BE 2007 Guide Book. Thank You. S.PirahaspathyCustomer Service CentreInland Revenue Board of Malaysia.

So it seems that there is still quite a ‘Grey area’ for Internet businesses, as they mentioned that there are still no ’specific rules’ for internet businesses as of yet. The forms can be downloaded as shown below.

My advice however, is to declare everything you earn, as you never know when you might get audited. If you run your blog as a business, perhaps you could find a way to get tax benefits from tax deductible business expenses? I’m still not sure about what these could be, but I’m going to read up and find out for myself.

Do Bloggers Have To Pay For Tax?

Thursday, August 28th, 2008

Well I’ve also been wondering, would a full time blogger need to pay for tax in Malaysia if the money comes from outside Malaysia? If most of your income comes from Nuffnang or any other Malaysian blog aggregator, you will probably have to pay tax once you reach the RM2000 threshold. (But check with a professional tax consultant to confirm – I’m not one.)

For money received from outside Malaysia (i.e. Google Adsense), a local blog I’ve visited quoted:

Tax Exemptions For Individuals
12. Income Remitted from Outside Malaysia
With effect from the year of assessment 2004, income derived from outside Malaysia and received in Malaysia by resident individual is exempted from tax. (Link)

Original post here.

So to clarify, I’ve emailed the government department, The Inland Revenue Board (IRB) at http://www.hasil.org.my/english/eng_index.asp, whether or not they reply me is another question. I’ll let you know what they say.